No longer a
reluctant rocker, the former guitarist for Rilo Kiley guitarist opts to give
The Elected another term.
BY LEE ZIMMERMAN
At the peak of their popularity, Rilo Kiley appeared to have it all:
indie credibility; the backing of a major record label; a cozy relationship
between the two musicians who were at the helm; a seemingly unlimited reservoir
of good songs and a wealth of internal talent and a bright future still ahead
of them. Then, for reasons unknown, it all fell apart last year. The two
principals went their own ways – Jenny Lewis to continue her career on her own
and Blake Sennett… well, he simply faded away, quitting the music business in
disgust to pursue film writing and directing. His stint with Rilo Kiley had
clearly come to an end, and even his ongoing side project, The Elected, had
been abandoned along with it.
“I just started thinking music sucks and music people were insane,”
Sennett says now, reflecting on those difficult times. “The situation we all
had been in had become unmanageable.”
Given that pessimistic perspective, it seemed highly improbable that
Sennett would ever re-enter a recording studio, much less wholly commit himself
to making music with the passion he had before. It took the dogged persuasion
of his friend and engineer Jason Cupp to coax him back into the studio. Nothing
was planned, and no songs were ready and waiting. The process was organic in
the truest sense, but eventually it all morphed and became Bury Me In My Rings, a lush, surprising effusive effort that marks
a new peak in Sennett’s storied career. Although it’s essentially a solo album
– he played the majority of the instruments and then recruited Cupp, his former
Elected band mate Mike Bloom, and Bright Eyes’ Mike Mogis to further flesh out
the arrangements – it’s both instantly accessible and effortlessly engaging.
Songs such as “Babyface,” “Look At Me Now” and “When I’m Gone” provide a steady
pulse and a snappy refrain, while shimmering ballads like “Born To Love You,”
“Jailbird” and “This Will Be Worth it” show off Sennett’s sensitive side and
proven pop prowess.
Sennett recently took time to chat with BLURT from his home in L.A. The conversation
covered several topics that clearly remain top of mind — among them, the cause
for Rilo Kiley’s implosion, his decision to revive the Elected, and how he
recharged his passion and found both inspiration and enthusiasm in the process.
BLURT: So Blake,
now that you have a new album in the offing, what are you doing to herald its
BLAKE SENNETT: At the moment I’m working on this music video and I’m
trying to write the treatment. And I’m finding it’s hard to do.
Didn’t you just
complete a treatment for a screenplay? A music video should come naturally, no?
Yeah, but this is different. I have to define what the song is about,
and how the video is a metaphor for the song’s subject. So it’s kind of like an
interview or something. It just doesn’t come naturally.
just hate having to explain their songs?
Yeah. I think that’s tedious and difficult to do.
The music should
say it all, right?
Yeah, hopefully. But every song’s different. Some are more descriptive, and
some are more narrative. This particular song, “Baby Face,” is a real strong
narrative… like, “Oh, this thing happened like this” and so it doesn’t leave
much room for the imagination.
On the album you
play practically all the instruments – it comes across as a very rich
I wouldn’t say I played all the instruments. I’d say maybe 80 percent of them. I don’t want to take credit
for everything, but yeah, I do play a bunch of stuff.
The first thing
we have to ask is why you opted out of Rilo Kiley? It seems like the band had
finally achieved a big break-through. You were a major label, getting all this
attention… So why walk away?
Well… it was pretty dysfunctional in general. It was a pretty negative
scene. Relationships were eroding. Ultimately, that’s probably a Jenny
But you’re the
one that walked away. Jenny’s continued on her trajectory and you left the
Yeah, I stepped away, but not just from Rilo Kiley. When I decided to
quit the biz, Rilo Kiley was already over.
So the obvious
follow-up question is: what prompted your return to music?
Ummm, I guess what made me decide to return was a spur of the moment,
impromptu decision to go back to it. My friend Jason called and asked if I’d be
interested in doing some recording, and
I explained I didn’t have much stuff to record, and what I did have was pretty
old and not all that interesting to me. So he said, “Let’s give it a shot
anyway and just go and have fun.” And sure enough, after about a week of
working with him, I felt re-energized. I left because my feelings had been hurt
and I was kind of depressed about the last musical endeavor that I had been a
part of, and I guess I felt – what’s the word? – I guess I felt disillusioned.
So when I came back to it, I began to think, “Oh, music’s not that bad.” I was
blaming music for something that wasn’t music, as an art form’s, fault. It was
a by-product of relationships that had soured, or been overworked, or had been
the victim of overexposure. I think you can have overexposure in any
relationship. That’s pretty common. You get sick of each other and it isn’t fun
So I found when there
was no one to disagree with, it was pretty awesome and it was fun, and in fact,
it was pretty great. I thought it would be great to keep going. So we sent out
the songs to a couple of labels, and Vagrant was the first one to say, come in,
let’s do it. We didn’t actively pursue them, but that got us excited enough to
just keep going. So we did as much as we could, and I played as much as I
could, but eventually it took its toll on me. God man, this is starting to
sound like a broken record – literally!
I thought, I can’t play drums like I’m hearing them in my head, and
there’s some instrumentation I hadn’t been considering, so let’s bring in some
people, some of my friends, who would suggest things that I wouldn’t think of.
Bringing them in became the next course of action.
instruments did you actually end up playing? Our advance copy doesn’t give the
No, the actual album doesn’t give the credits either. I thought it
would look like self-aggrandizing. You know, like “Drums – Me! Guitar – Me!
Everything – ME!
On the other
hand, Paul McCartney and Todd Rundgren did records all on their own. In a sense,
you were following in a grand tradition.
Paul McCartney is incredible, but he also doesn’t have the smallest
ego in the world. I didn’t necessarily want to go through all that ego tripping
again. We did that on Rilo Kiley records. When I read record sleeves, I really
like extensive liner notes and to read the lyrics… but I don’t need to see
every single person who played every single instrument. I played a lot of
guitars and keyboards and ukuleles and bass and things…
modest but we’re still impressed. And what about the material? Had they been
Almost all of them were created for the record. Most of them were
recorded right as I was writing them, and they didn’t have any real essence
early on. We worked up a few chords and played a drumbeat and created the final
song piece by piece. But there were also a couple that had been lying around.
“Look at Me Now” had been hanging around for years – that one was just sitting
there – so yeah, there were a couple like that.
This sounds like
spontaneous combustion. And the record
being so lush and full-sounding belies the fact that it practically started
Yeah, I think the trick with things like this is in knowing just how
far to go with it. So hopefully we stopped before things got irritatingly lush
and sounding too grandiose. I tried to pull back on the stuff when I needed to.
There were certain songs that didn’t call for too much ornamentation. I think
it was an exercise in recording and producing just as much as it was an
exercise in songwriting. It was a different kind of songwriting in a sense. I
really liked it. It was a fun and very interesting way to work, in most cases
Even though you
signed with Vagrant, Sub Pop had been The Elected’s home for several years. Was
there any thought about going back to that label?
I considered it. We spent time with the label up in Seattle,
but I kind of liked the idea of being with a label that was in my city, which
is Los Angeles.
That sounded exciting. I really liked the people there and I really clicked
with them because they were great guys, but I just didn’t want to belabor the
point. Maybe Sub Pop didn’t hear the demos. Maybe they didn’t like them. And as
much as I liked Sub Pop, I never truly felt at home there anyway. So it seemed
more interesting to go with a new label. And I wasn’t sure I wanted to make a
Sub Pop kind of record anyway. Does that make sense? I didn’t set out to make
the kind of record that’s swamped in reverb. I think there’s a certain kind of
thing that Sub Pop does really well, but I don’t think this record is it, so I don’t
think that label would have been the right home for it… if you can see what I
doesn’t necessarily sound like the first two Elected albums either. There are certain nuances that distinguish
it from those earlier albums.
Yeah, I think the first two Elected albums, particularly the second
one, are a little more self-conscious, a little more aware of themselves. On
the first one, I was just kind of having fun. I didn’t necessarily know if it
would ever come out or if I would self-release it and sell it myself. So for
this third one, I tried to be as honest and truthful and as open as I have ever
been in any recording process. I tried not to make it sound like it was pointed
to anything, and if that meant it was going to be terrible, then it would be
terrible. One of the things I think I’ve learned in making music is that the
only thing you’re guaranteed about art in general is the process. The rest you
can’t control. But the process you can more or less control, especially if
you’re a solo artist. So I wanted to make sure the process was gratifying and
honest, and that I could walk away from the process feeling that it was
artistically fulfilling no matter what. Does that make sense?
Yes, very much so. But wasn’t The
Elected more of a band project before, as opposed to simply you carrying it
mostly by yourself?
It was always sort of a solo project, but my friend and guitarist Mike
Bloom had always contributed quite a bit and he contributed on this too. He
came by and we spent the last two weeks working on it together – him, me, Mike
Mogis and Jason. He definitely contributed to it, but he wasn’t there the whole
time like he had been in the past.
Was that scary?
Was it weird being back in the studio, after you had walked away? And did you feel like you had to live up to
the high expectations you had created with the earlier Elected albums, not to
mention with the success you had attained through Rilo Kiley?
No I didn’t feel that much pressure. I didn’t want to feel pressured.
I wasn’t up against anything. I wasn’t competing with anyone. I just wanted to
be sure I made something that felt meaningful. As silly it as that sounds, I
think this record was what was true for me. It was honest, and what just
happened. I didn’t want to point it in any direction it didn’t want to go.
What’s the state
of your screenplay at this point. Has anyone expressed interest?
I’m working on the rewrite now.
We’re talking with some people, so sort of… but I don’t really know. (chuckles)
Is your future
now firmly committed to music, or are you going to multitask and try to work on
music and film simultaneously?
I’m literally digging a hole in my backyard with my phone on a headset
as we speak. So I guess I’m multitasking now.
Digging a hole? Really?
Yeah, I gotta lay a post in the ground.
denigrating the whole image of being a rock star, Blake. One would think you’d
have someone to do that for you.
Maybe I’m not a rock star (laughs).
I guess I can multitask after all. However, I think as an artist, it’s
important to focus your efforts. I certainly want to focus on this record, but
I also have a hard time sitting still. I’ll work on my screenplay and try to
direct the movie and work on that kind of stuff, while also working on my
music. I’ll try to do it all at once.
Living in L.A., how do you fit into
the local music scene?
If there’s an L.A.
music scene, I’m not that aware of it or a part of it. I’ve never felt plugged
into an L.A.
music scene. The first Rilo Kiley record came out on a Seattle
label and the second one came out on an Omaha
label. Maybe there is something of a scene here. There always seems to be some
sort of evolution. I grew up in a show business scene.
You were a child
Uh huh, yeah. So I guess that’s always in my blood. But maybe I’ll
start trolling the Pacific Ocean with a big
goddamn net to try to fish the plastic out of the ocean. Maybe I’ll do
something meaningful like that someday. But until then, I guess I’ll just keep
goofing around with illusion for a while, and stick with storytelling.
That’s why we
asked about that L.A.
connection. It seems like you’ve been a part of that show business culture your
entire life, with the acting, then the music and now by writing and directing.
One would think you’d thrive in that culture.
Oh, I do thrive in that. I’ve always had a strong imagination and the
only thing I’m really good at is playing pretend. I couldn’t tell you how to
sell cars or balance a budget.
It’s great that
you don’t have to worry about all that now. By the way, how’s that hole coming?
I made a lot of progress! You were like my post hole digging muse!
If we had known
you were doing that at the beginning of our conversation, we would have shared
some words of motivation. Maybe like, “C’mon man, you can get past those rocks…
Well, you said the record was great, so that was all the motivation I
It’s almost like
in the movie “The Godfather,” where you wanted to escape from the music scene,
but somehow it kept pulling you back in.
Yeah, I was like Pacino.
[Photo Credit: Lauren Dukoff]